Comments on: “Fine and Sandy” Route Details (Makuri Islands)

By: Justin

Justin — Tue, 28 Feb 2023 21:01:16 +0000

@Eric Schlange – zwiftpower calls it Tidepool Sprint Reverse – is that a tweak needed in the article or zwiftpower setup wrong?

By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 25 Nov 2022 15:47:38 +0000

Did this route for the first time last night, and it’s surprisingly brutal in a strong and/or committed field of riders. Can definitely see this rivalling 2 Bridges Loop as an attritional multi-lap race, it’s just a shame that they didn’t make the climb section into a timed KOM
(…of course if they change the sand surface rolling resistance it could just become another route to avoid, so fingers crossed they don’t)

By: Henry Heavisides

Henry Heavisides — Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:30:17 +0000

In reply to Gregor. With the pacer I was in a group of about 70-80 riders. In the race I stayed in a group the whole way, with about 20 riders by the end. I can't believe that the difference in group size & a small section of gravel road would account for more than 45% difference in watts.

By: Kim S

Kim S — Wed, 23 Nov 2022 18:35:18 +0000

In reply to Paul Southworth. I’ve been doing bike swaps on all these new routes when I hit the dirt surfaced hill and it seems to be working. I have no idea why Zwift keeps torturing its users this way. When I finish collecting all the route badges, I plan to avoid all of them as much as possible in the future. Serious waste of programming effort and a major disappointment.

By: Gregor

Gregor — Wed, 23 Nov 2022 08:29:57 +0000

In reply to Henry Heavisides. There is some road that ride like gravel on the route. Not the sand but the surface that has a green edge. Also the pacer draft is different. Using Sauce it looks like double draft.Certainly more than you get in a group. Finally all the Race Makuri rides blew apart on the climbs. Group much smaller by the end. Long way of saying i think the sand rolls the same as tarmac.

By: Andromeda

Andromeda — Wed, 23 Nov 2022 02:43:36 +0000

In reply to Henry Heavisides. Henry, rides in a larger bunch are significantly faster to riding solo or in a group of two-three. You cannot compare that.

By: Paul Southworth

Paul Southworth — Wed, 23 Nov 2022 02:10:17 +0000

In reply to Jose. You struggled just as much on the sand which is designed for road bikes

By: Henry Heavisides

Henry Heavisides — Tue, 22 Nov 2022 21:21:40 +0000

I am not convinced that the rolling resistance on the compacted sand is the same as that for a road. I just did 2 laps of this Fine & sandy course in a race (C Category). I averaged 219 watts (3 w/kg) & did 35.7 kph with 156m of climbing. As a warm up I did a similar distance on the Flat route in Watopia with the Maria robopacer (D category). For this I averaged 150 watts (2.2 w/kg), avg speed was 36.9 kph with 148m of climbing. For both rides I was on the Tron bike. It looks to me like the rolling resistance in Urukazi is significantly slower that the roads in Watopia.

By: Jose

Jose — Mon, 21 Nov 2022 13:42:53 +0000

I have just tried Gravel frame and tires and struggled on the tarmac segments following the pack.

By: Alan Bennett

Alan Bennett — Sat, 19 Nov 2022 23:02:40 +0000

In reply to Ali Stewart. Tron if you’ve got it or light road bike IMHO