Comments on: All About Coffee Stops in Zwift

By: Stan

Stan — Tue, 02 Apr 2024 17:34:38 +0000

This is entirely fair. Maybe Zwift should have a countering option. Called “leave ’em behind,” “not your tow truck,” or just “f off,” where individual riders opt out of someone else’s coffee stop. If coffee stopper is in a group, nothing changes. If coffee stopper has hitched a ride with a solo unwilling stranger, they’re cut loose.

(I’m ultimately not that bothered by this, but it did feel strangely annoying and antisocial at the time.).

By: Eric Schlange

Eric Schlange — Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:43:02 +0000

In reply to Stan. I understand the annoyance, but if Zwift did what you said it would mess up the feature for riders who are just riding as a pair with a friend.

By: Stan

Stan — Sat, 30 Mar 2024 18:27:59 +0000

Zwift should require that the coffee stopper actually be in a group of riders. I was riding *by myself* when someone hammered to catch up with me, then hit “coffee break” and was stuck to me for the next 3 minutes. I know it’s just graphics on a screen, but still felt annoying.

By: Steve

Steve — Sun, 17 Mar 2024 15:52:09 +0000

Here’s a test I’d like to see…. Two riders pretty much by themselves. One activates the coffee stop, a few seconds later the other rider does the same. If there’s no other riders around do they both stop or both feed off each others coffee stop power?

By: noarchos markadonis

noarchos markadonis — Mon, 26 Feb 2024 22:15:11 +0000

so no coffee stops on organized rides like BTMR 100?

By: Kije

Kije — Sat, 17 Feb 2024 22:01:56 +0000

So many comments here prove that there a lot of people who actually take Zwift seriously. Fair enough, I guess it’s a case of what gives you a thrill. But Zwift is just a video game, with cheats and gimmicks where not even so called races are serious, they can’t be as all forms of cheating are possible. As for the group rides, none of what others do on them mean squat. Half the riders or more on group riders bust their guts to ‘win’, sad sods. So just do your stuff but if you want better racing choose Indievelo.

By: achin94

achin94 — Mon, 05 Feb 2024 08:46:09 +0000

In RL if you eat, drink or mess with stuff in your jersey at the front, you are going to get yelled at. IMHO Coffee Stops should be allowed at the back of the pack. (or at least behind the pace rider.). Nothing spoils the view like 5 or 6 coffee mugs in your face.

By: Adrian Amos

Adrian Amos — Sun, 21 Jan 2024 03:06:28 +0000

In reply to BDan.

TdZ24 Stage 4, Petit KOM reverse: dudes hitting the base of the climb in the front group at over 6W/kg knowing they’ll hit that fresh delicious coffee button at the first plateau, do some yoga, maybe plant a tree, and then drill it down the other side of the hill on fresh legs and push a 15-second gap out to over a minute. It’s “just a game” when it’s not technically a race, but it’s super demoralizing and exceptionally tacky, and that discourages participation.

I’d love to see a virtual-wattage cap on the stoppers for any event that publishes a results sheet to ZwiftPower. Make it *just* powerful enough to draft in the bunch, but never exceed 4W/kg. Coffee stops should not be the ultimate power-up.

By: Eric Schlange

Eric Schlange — Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:55:25 +0000

In reply to Bikechiro. Yup.

By: Tony

Tony — Sun, 14 Jan 2024 19:20:28 +0000

In reply to Dan Connelly. Good points. I would add that Zwift also has structured group training rides, where keeping the group together is encouraged. Those only really exist IRL amongst riders of similar ability, but in Zwift there is more scope for people to stretch their ability and try to hang on to a group that might be a little too hard for them. A coffee stop can help them step up to a group which might otherwise be too hard for them, and no-one is harmed by that. But I agree that TdZ rides should be treated like sportives, so that people drop back to a following group if they are struggling.